This is a hands-on review of the Fuji Finepix S5 Pro, a DSLR released back in 2007 that combines the best characteristics of negative film and DSLRs.
Included here is a dynamic range comparison between the S5, the Nikon D3 and Nikon D70.
BACKSTORY
I started taking photography seriously at the beginning of 2007. My wife and I just found out that we were having a baby. It was a time filled with joy, hope and anticipation. I wanted to capture memories of our growing family beautifully.
As I shopped for my first DSLR, I learned about the then-recently released Fujifilm FinePix S5 Pro. I read the glowing reviews about its colors and dynamic range. There were all sorts of stories about how this remarkable camera could capture images like no other. Here is one of those famous S5 shots:
The shot that made the S5 famous. Credit: Ryan Brenizer - blogged
here.
FUJI S5 PRO
The S5 is basically a Nikon D200 with a customized Fuji-designed sensor. The S5 -- and its predecessor the S3 -- use Fuji's proprietary Super CCD sensor. Unlike other sensors, the Super CCD sensor has two pixels in each photosite. One of the pixels is like a regular CCD pixel. The second pixel is a much smaller pixel that has a much lower sensitivity. When the S5 takes a shot, the regular S-pixel records the image with the typical dynamic range of a CCD sensor. At the same time, the smaller R-pixel, with lower sensitivity, is able to record the highlights and brighter parts of the image. The information from both pixels is combined into an image that has a wider dynamic range than what would otherwise be possible. It's like the S5 takes two shots at the same time and combines them into an HDR image.
The other unique quality of the S5 is its colors -- specifically its skin tones, which many say is more flattering for lighter complexions than other cameras.
These advantages made the S5 the perfect camera for people photos, and it was precisely what I wanted. Unfortunately the S5 cost $1,899 then. I couldn't wrap my head around that number, considering that I was looking for a DSLR under $500. I sighed and mentally categorized the S5 as unobtanium.
Eventually, like all cameras, the price started to decline. But even as recently as a couple of years ago, it was still selling well above $1,000. At the time I upgraded to a Nikon D300 in early 2010, I did consider getting an S5. However, given the S5's limited resolution and older specs, I felt that spending that much money just to get the benefit of the extra dynamic range was a luxury I couldn't afford.
Fast forward to a few weeks ago. I felt it was time to upgrade and I sold my D300. While researching which camera to get, I checked S5 prices on a whim and found to my surprise that some were selling for much more reasonable prices. So, five years after pining for one, I finally got one. (Cue the Carpenters' "Make Believe It's Your First Time" lol ).
DYNAMIC RANGE
I tested the S5's recovery limits. As with the
D3 and
D70, I tested recovery from -5 stops below the camera's metered exposure to +5 stops above. Just for kicks, I also tested up to +10 stops above the metered exposure.
Here again is the test for the D70:
I like the review a lot, it is refreshing to read about something unique, I would love to see more impressions after you've used the camera for a longer period.
ReplyDeleteThanks my friend. Yeah I feel that it is really different. Early on, I thought about possibly trading it for a newer camera with really good high ISO performance but the more I learned about it, the more it seems that it is irreplaceable. We shall see... I have read former S5 users who have switched to the D700 or D3 who were initially wistful about the S5 but later thought the superior shadow range of the newer cameras made up for any loss.
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Mic
Hi, I noticed the use of my Image "On the Stairs". If you were interested I can email you a copy of the file so you dont have to use a link. I also dont mind giving info on how the shot was captured (though I would appreciate a link to www.ajtimages.com if that is ok).
ReplyDeleteIm a big S5 fan myself despite initially buying the camera as it offered a fairly cheap body for a range of fast nikon lenses provided by the company I worked for. However I quickly grew to love the dynamic range and colours, though I still am loath to go abouve 400 iso and wish the output was sharper.
Anyway thanks for the nice words regarding my image
Alex Taylor
www.ajtimages.com
photos@ajtimages.com
Thanks Alex! That would be great. I'll send you an email.
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Mic
Yep I agree with everything you have said and from the tests I have conducted. I have come to exactly the same conclusion... At present it is the only DSLR camera (in my opinion) ever made that is able to capture that amount of dynamic range. It really is remarkable camera, It's limitations like resolution, speed, noise can all be tackled by the use of the fastest card you can get and post production techniques. What I tend to do is turn every extra processing function either to minimum or off, such as, noise reduction is to minimum, sharpening is off etc but I use the maximum dynamic range as its this that is impossible to recreate. I then use the best photoshop plugins to remove noise and apply the sharpening once the image is at it's intended size. The results are just so much better than my backup camera (a nikon D5000) that even though the nikon is a really very good camera it's no where near as good as the fuji.
ReplyDeleteMy only caveat to my praise of the Fuji is the high ISO noise compared to modern high end cameras, if you intend to use this camera with a constant high ISO then this camera is not for you. Technology has moved on in leaps and bounds and the lack of noise of these new cameras is really good and it's here rather than the super high resolution or general speed that the Fuji is showing it's age, but if you were to ask me to swop the dynamic range for all the other advantages of the new DSLR then I would have to say no thanks I will keep the Fuji.... I just wished Fuji carried on with there SuperCCD in a pro DSLR body but it doesn't look like that will ever happen.
Max
Hi Max. My sentiments exactly.
DeleteIn fact in high ISOs the smaller s pixels are supposedly inactive, so we get a double whammy.
Best regards,
Mic
I also didnt like the film simulation modes because you cant control the dynamic range. When I asked about this, I was told that this is because different films have different amounts of dynamic range and so these differences are baked into the simulation modes. To be able to adjust that would sort of defeat the purpose.
ReplyDeleteSo film simulation modes are good for scenes where your camera does not need the use its maximum dynamic range.
Thanks, yeah, that's the reason I rarely use the film simulation modes which would otherwise have been more interesting.
DeleteWould you recommend using lightroom 4 or hyper utility o process raw files,?
ReplyDeleteHi! Sorry, I don't have hyper utility so I haven't compared it with lightroom...
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Mic
Hi!
ReplyDeleteI the photographer of the last photo here ("At the arcade") and yes, that is a photo with pleasing tones. It was processed from RAW in LR 4.
I loved the S5 Pro but have since moved to a camera which I believe is a worthy successor - the Nikon D800. Even *more* dynamic range, though since it is weighted in the shadows it requires a different shot discipline to the S5 ...
- Alex.
Hi Alex! Thanks for the additional info on your photo, and congrats on the D800. A number of people have said the same thing - that the S5's dynamic range has been eclipsed by some of the newer cameras. I think it's great and it's definitely something to look forward to with my next camera (hopefully D600 ;) ).
DeleteMeanwhile I plan to test that with my lowly D90 (which supposedly had one of the widest dynamic range in the previous generation of APS-C cameras). My hypothesis is that even though the newer cameras have greater total dynamic range, the S5 is still unique because of the gradual rolloff. I think it will be interesting to test this.
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Mic
Hi. Can you guys - based on your experience with S5 tell what prime lenses works well on S5 and which zooms? What cf card can you recommend for this camera?
ReplyDeleteThank you in advance.
BTW great blog..
Hi sznajder! Thanks for visiting our blog. Thank you also for your thought-provoking question. I like to answer based only on my personal experience so here goes:
DeleteIn my view the greatest strength of the S5 is the highlight dynamic range. For me, the lenses that I use that take advantage of this best are wide angle and ultrawide lenses (including fisheye). Examples that I like: Tokina 11-16 2.8, Tokina 10-17 fisheye, Sigma 10-20 4.0-5.6, or even the Tamron 17-50 VC.
On the other hand, one of the weaknesses of the S5 is the noise in high ISO, which is not as good as newer cameras. So, if you take photos in low light, you can benefit from lenses with wider apertures. Examples: Tokina 11-16 2.8, Tamron 17-50 2.8.
My suggestion is to take a look at the photos from the Flickr S5 group http://www.flickr.com/groups/fujis5/ then see which ones you like. Then check out what focal lengths they use. That would help you narrow down your choices.
As for CF cards, if you shoot in raw (I highly recommend doing so to take advantage of the dynamic range), then you should know that the S5 has huge raw files (around 25mb), so you'll need a large card. The S5 is also somewhat slow to write to the card, so I prefer to use a faster card so that I don't slow it down further. I've used Transcend 16GB 600x CF cards (the gold ones) and they haven't let me down.
Best regards,
Mic
Mic Ty,
ReplyDeleteI was wondering what firmware do you have installed on your S5? and have you compared with all the different firmwares?
Hi! I will check as soon as I get home.
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Mic
I have not made tests with the latest firmware 1.12 but I've got the 1.09 installed on my S5. When using center weighted and matrix metering center weighted under exposes while matrix gives more accurate exposures.
ReplyDeletejust discussing firmware on the flickr forum most Pro users say that 1.09 is the best.
Thanks! That's helpful to know. I don't know yet which firmware I have, but whichever one it is, it tends to underexpose.
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Mic
Please keep me posted on the firmware experiments.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mic
I found out that my firmware A is 1.01 and my firmware B is 1.08. I guess I have a chance to take some test shots with my older firmware, before upgrading to 1.09, then I will take the same test shots for comparison.
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Mic
thanks for the update keep me posted
ReplyDeleteI've done some reading on the S5 flickr group page and got solid information from a member named "KopiOkaya". He seems to be an expert on the S5 Pro, he said his friend works at Fujifilm also he emailed me a download of the 1.09 firmware and I was able to downgrade from the latest 1.12 firmware.
ReplyDeleteI'm really enjoying your page on the S5 information and testing.
Thanks for your input Mic
Thanks for the info! I haven't been active in the S5 flickr group but I'll check it out.
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Mic
I have an old S5 on the shelf and still use it for walkabout and street work. My day job is a photographer for which I use a D4/D700. The S5 is my personal "toy" for when photography is a hobby again. Interesting to see the different firmware thoughts, mine is on the ltest firmware and I tend to shoot raw and overexpose everything by a stop or 3 depending on what I want. I have tried different processing software and RPP for the mac is very good if you use good lenses. All best Si.
ReplyDeleteMic,
ReplyDeleteIm guessing you haven't done any test with the S5Pro?
Hi Frank. I assume you mean in comparison with the d7100? Not yet. Perhaps today.
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Mic
Mic, I was reffering to the S5pro firewares...
DeletePlease go to www.flickr.com/photos/birdseyeviewphotos Then you will see why I use one for the day job being a Pro with 48 years of experience I am taking photos of car Insurance claims or accidents ....the Hassel 202FA is the other camera used.
ReplyDeleteThanks James! Nice portfolio you have there, if I may say so.
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Mic